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Saturday, 16 June 2012
Agunloye: ACN is popular in Ondo
Agunloye: Mission, Track Record and Task of building a new Ondo State
You cannot but do that because in your party, it is not everybody that will work with you although they will vote for you during election but you cannot command them all at the same time like those you have on your platform. What we did with Omoluabi is to properly register members by giving them forms. In Ese-Odo and Ikare, we have not been able to collect these forms back but we have 157, 000 forms already collected.If we need them to come to Akure, I do not need to beg them before they come. You know what this means, it means we have additional members for ACN. At the same time, we may have some aspirants who may decide not to do it this way; I say good luck to them. All along every member of Omoluabi Platform has contributed immensely to our aspiration. Many of them have spent a lot of money on this struggle. We are in the struggle that is strategic and Omoluabi Platform is the entire strategy that we need to win this battle.
I stand better chance to clinch Ondo ACN ticket –Agunloye
In this interview, one of those close to Mimiko during the struggle to wrest power from the PDP in the state, Dr. Olu Agunloye who is also aspiring to contest the governorship election on the ticket of ACN confirmed that indeed, Mimiko was to join ACN after winning his case in court. He also disclosed that governor Mimiko forced him out of the Labour Party.
He said he had a good chance of becoming the next governor of Ondo State adding that whenever people talk of loyalty to the party leadership, his usual reply is that his antecedents speaks for him. He made reference to Professor Wole Soyinka whom he succeeded at the Federal Road Safety Commission (FRSC) and the late Attorney General of the Federation, Chief Bola Ige.
He said he remained loyal to the two at the risk of his life and his job even when he no longer needed them. He reasoned that anybody interested in party members who will remain loyal to the party leadership after winning election should consider the record of all aspirants. He also gave reasons why he believes he can do better than the incumbent governor, Dr. Olusegun Mimiko. Excerpts:
Why do you want to be governor of Ondo State?
In the case of Ondo State, we know that the state require a lot of improvement and a lot of progress. All along, we have had administrations that governed Ondo State that had not done all that are required to be done. I see myself eminently qualified to be that change-to be a change agent in this case. I see myself eminently qualified to also serve Ondo State so that we move to the next level. Specifically, in terms of service, which I believe, is the core of the issue here, we believe that three criteria would be very critical. One is the idea of competence either by training or former experience and I believe I am competent in that level. The second one is being credible.
You need somebody who is not only competent but also credible. I believe I also have that after 34 years in service. The third one is somebody who is compassionate. We need somebody who will not go there and divert the entire hospital fund for some other things. We need somebody who will understand that youth employment is critical factors for the development of the state.
Why did you settle for ACN and not any other party?
But it turned out that it was a major mistake on my own part and on the part of other people at that time. This is like working back to the answer. At that time, this was one of the best decisions that we took. After that, we found out that the best way to wrestle power from the clutches of reactionary people who had a stronghold on the Southwest and Ondo State in particular was to move to ACN.
But in Ondo State, under the guidance of Mimiko, it was not the most exigent thing at that time because we did not want to position ourselves as fighting against Obasanjo. If you remember, Atiku Abubakar had differences with Obasanjo and he was in AC. So, AC was not the vessel for the change at that time. It became the Labour Party of Nigeria. Of course, up to a point, it was assumed that Labour Party was some kind of AC and later; Labour Party would dissolve into ACN in Ondo State. After some time, it became clear as Aregbesola put it that “Omi eko, ki se eko”. So, let everybody bear his father’s name. The parting of ways started at that point.
With some stroke of luck for me, the activities of Labour Party to kick me out in January 2011 left me with no choice than to be back to the fold of the progressives. You were actually kicked out of the Labour Party? Yes. I was kicked out.
Why?
Few hours before I was asked to step down for Professor Boroffice for the race for the senate, I didn’t expect that kind of pressure from Olusegun Mimiko (governor of Ondo State) and the Labour Party hierarchy. They were saying that as one of the owners and father of the party, it should be one of the sacrifices that I will have to make. I didn’t see it as one of the correct thing to do. So, I was forced out of the party. I became ACN candidate and ran for the election.
So, you lost the election?
People who followed the election at that time knew that ACN was set to win the election and Agunloye was to become elected until Mimiko came with force and did so many things. No point to worry about them. People know what Mimiko did to the electorate, to the Obas and a host of people involved making sure that election result was declared in favour of Boroffice. It was really I versus Mimiko. Mimiko has a reputation for following the game according to the rules. I don’t know where you got that. I don’t know what you are referring to. Mimiko himself will not say so. People who know him would not say so. What is before us now is the election.
How close were you to him before you fell out with him?
Why do you think he asked you step down for Boroffice? Could it be that he considered him a better material?
Are you aware that ACN has the reputation of not going through primaries to pick their candidates? Well, I don’t like the way you put it. There were cases I see primaries conducted under ACN and under AD and UPN. But it is also correct to say that there were cases and instances where that process is not done the way we all understand it. It is a kind of selection process. They have perfected that selection process over the last 60 years. In most cases, it has led them to less confusion. We expect that they will come up with the best of their experience to resolve the so many candidates and come up with somebody who will be generally acceptable and generate the minimum rancour and make everybody to work together.
What edge do you have over other aspirants on the ticket of ACN in Ondo State?
The second factor is: who will be a good bridge between the hard core ACN who are colleagues from AD. Some were colleagues in PDP. Some of them are members of excos in wards and local governments. The same applies to other pressure groups, artisans, NUPENG and so on and so forth. I command a lot of respect from these groups.
Besides that, he had a percentage of them working with me. People who are still in Labour Party and those still in PDP and they want to come to ACN. Another factor that gives me edge is my pedigree that is not only envious but also credible. We are not in Ondo State election now to introduce someone and qualify him by long sentences. Another factor in my favor is the issue of technical and managerial experience.
Again, we have found out that when you get a governor, he is more or less an administrator. He is a manager and for people who have not managed business of running more than 10 or 15 people, they may not have managerial experience as I would have. I have run large-scale organizations like the Federal Road Safety Corps (FRSC) of 105 formations.
That was what it was at that time. I was Minister of Defense of Navy at a time that Nigeria was almost at war. It was a naval war. It was the Bakasi. These are tasking experiences, which are very important for me.
There is the issue of loyalty. I know that it is hard to say because if you ask any of the 20 or so aspirants if they are loyal, they will say yes. But loyalty to whom do you mean? It is assumed that you are loyal to your benefactors. That is what it is here. You are not talking of loyalty to a cause. That is not how it is used in politics. In politics, you want to find out if you will be loyal to Asiwaju Bola Tinubu, Rauf Aregbesola and people who support you to get the position. The point I want to make is that when that issue comes up, everybody will say yes. Nobody would say no. How do you know if they would be loyal and I say check the antecedent?
Two cases come to my mind. Case one: I became Head of Road Safety commission with a lot of support from Professor Wole Soyinka and he was my chairman for two and half years. He left. Events that happened four years after show that I was loyal to him at a time I needed not to care about him.
You may not know the details but I need not have worried about Soyinka being killed by Abacha or being arrested by him. I was not in charge of that and he was no longer my chairman. So, if at that time I rose up to the issue, it is a mark of loyalty.
Second one is Bola Ige. I served as SA to him and through his leverage; I became minister after he was killed. For the last ten years, I have set up Bola Ige movement and I have kept the case and the name of Bola Ige on every year-twice in a year until last year when there were more Ige children in position of power who provided very elaborate ceremony to mark his tenth year. Otherwise, it could have been my own again.
If I was not loyal to Bola Ige, why do I have to do that? I could also talk about Rufus Giwa and some who helped me one way or the other. Those are people I see as role models at one time or the other. In my activities after they had died are signs of loyalty. You take Ige for instance; I rose vigorously to his aide at the risk of my own life and at the risk of my own position in government to defend him when he was accused of stealing N2.3b.
Mimiko is rated high in performance by the public and many wonder what he is not doing that you would do as governor?
When you say Mimiko is rated high, I am sure he himself would be smiling. He would say: ‘Yes, I got them’. He is rated high because he had paid to be rated high. He has got about 25 awards in the last four years. He has spent money to mentor those awards and the most expensive was the NUJ award in Akure.
There are no kids in Nigeria anymore. People know they are ephemeral, unnecessary and they are expensive. I used to have in my office the shields I got when I was in Federal Road Safety Commission (FRSC). What I see when I got other people’s offices made me to remove mine. Awards have ceased to be correct awards in the last five years. They have been extremely corrupted.
Thursday, 14 June 2012
Ondo PDP Women’s Leader, others join ACN
Tuesday, 12 June 2012
My Mind tells me Bola Ige’s Killers will still be caught says Agunloye
What was the most challenging episode in your life?
The most challenging thing in my life is the hostile environment in which we are. We are in a society that security is almost at zero level. Also, the economy is not so encouraging. What we used 50,000 naira to do before, if you have 500,000 now, you cannot do it. And people like me are in such a society and we work around the clock to get results from such hostile environment.
Having spent over three decades in the political terrain, what was the most trying period of your life? What was it that thing that has left indelible memory in you that you can hardly forget?
The most shocking thing that has ever happened to me that would take time before forgetting it was the shocking death of the late Attorney General of the Federation and Minister of Justice, Uncle Bola Ige. We were together on December 19 0r 20, 2001 after which we parted. I went to Akoko. I was very shocked when I heard of his assassination by some wicked people. The way the gruesome murder was committed and the shoddy way the country handled it almost made me lose hope in the entire judicial system of this country. It was handled in such a way that we had little knowledge of how he died. It was very disappointing.
How have you been coping without him since his death affected you so much?
Do you think justice can still take his cause after many years of his death?
In fact, they tried to do it and undid it again. Then, ten years after, we are in the same business. It is not only the step which is inappropriate, a step which exposes government as not looking into their records or not learning from the previous ones. It is also a step which shows government as being very insensitive to even the good development within their own system. Incidentally, I was in the engine room of the FRSC about two months ago and I saw the level of development which has gone up there and the level at which other countries of the world were actually emulating and copying all the things that FRSC was doing.
It is not new, it happened when I was there and I remember that New York driver’s license was modeled after Nigeria’s driver’s license and I’m also aware that a couple of African countries modeled theirs too after Nigeria’s. And now, it is even at a higher level where the World Road Safety Organization is modeling a couple of things after the FRSC. This is not the time that one report would say merge it with the parent body. It is a symptom that Nigeria is in a real difficulty.
Many people say Governor Olusegun Mimiko is doing a good job in Ondo State and you want to contest the governorship election with him in 2013. Why do you think we should change a winning team?
In Ondo State, take a ride through the market and you find out that the Mimiko that they know is not the same Mimiko that other people know on AIT, Channels and so on. Some of the indices you can use to measure that are the number of awards that Mimiko has got. Mimiko has got more than 54 awards at a stupendous cost to government over 300 million. So, why do you get the best award as the best gynecologist of the year, the best governor of the year, the best swagger governor of the year when we do not see any impart in the State?
Ask for what Mimiko has done in the state. He can be described as somebody who has done wealth cancellation, wealth annulment instead of wealth creation. He found a purse of N420 billion and found ways and means to spend it not creating any industry, farm settlement, not employing the youth. No stable industry that is there. So, instead of wealth creation, we are faced with wealth cancellation. There is another thing he has done. This ‘eye, eye thing’ (eye pleasing). It can only be ‘Oju Aye project’, to take a road that ex-Governor Olusegun Agagu had tarred and put lamp post and pulled all the divider, asphalt only to be redoing it. It is Oju Aye project to take a round about where one is not required, pulling it down four times. So, it means you pay for its destruction three times and also pay four times reconstructing and four times designing it. When you finish it, all that you now do is put a very beautiful water fountain and, because your state capital has no water, you use tanker to bring water to the place. And because you state capital does not have electricity, you then go and put generator to run the place.
All these are not landmark projects but ways and means to spend the money. The same with mega school, mega hospital, mega this, mega that. You now mentioned the word, winning. I don’t know what you mean by winning. Mimiko himself will not say so because, if he believed he was winning, he would not go about tearing and pulling down billboards and posters of other aspirants and candidates. He would not send his men to be destroying the campaign vehicles of other candidates.
‘Power is epileptic and non-existent not for any other reason but corruption. We know what to do. Uncle Bola Ige and Senator Ahmed Bola Tinubu were right on what to do’
When one looks at your political antecedents, it is surprising that, at different times, you were in the Unity Party of Nigeria, Alliance for Democracy and it was a common belief that UPN, AD had the same ideology. Why did you suddenly defect to the PDP and now you want to contest on the platform of the Action Congress of Nigeria?
Then, we parted ways and I went to Akoko. One of the things he told me was that I should not leave AD. He explained that all those issues would be resolved. And we notice that some of those issues were not even resourced even though he made a trip to Akure and spent several hours trying to resolve them. Also General Alani Akinrinade (rtd) tried to resolve those issues but he could not. Crossing to the PDP was as a result of power struggle in Ondo State and Afenifere at that time. What I tried not to do people have spoken to me about it, they use it to colour my image to a certain extent and I have tried to resist giving detail because it may start to open new wounds.
People must know where Ige himself stood at that time, people must know that when Ige wrote his famous letter to the President about what he planned to do, if the contents of that letter could have allowed people like us to struggle on the platform of the PDP. Let that be aside. I’m not ready to open that at this stage because it may open healed wounds. But moving from one party to another, in Nigeria, in this 21st century, does not mean so much.
Like I told you, I go from one place to another changing people from Labour Party and PDP to ACN. Moving from one place to the other is the only way ACN could win in this state and we have been doing that. I am waiting to celebrate my 200th decamping session in winning people from other parties to ACN. The political landscape in Nigeria is so large. People move from place to place. You can also liken that to Mimiko. He has moved more than I have. If movement leads you to a good level, they clap for you and if it does not, they blame you for moving.
Ondo State governorship election is fast approaching. How prepared is ACN?
The struggle for the ACN in the last one year has now been documented in two booklets. We also strengthened the structure under the structure, Omoluabi, and making sure that those who comes to the party are properly registered. As at now, we have about 52 offices that are running and also have Omoluabi offices in about 203 ward and 18 local governments. Now, we have a database of 157,000 people who have filled the Omoluabi Platform forms.
Then since the beginning of the year, we have embarked on outreach meetings with the elders and elite in the state who are not necessarily resident in Ondo State. If you look at the recent harvest of people who moved from the LP and PDP, you would know that the steam is gathering.
What do you think gives you an edge over all these aspirants?
One, by nature, I am moderate and I have also lost a couple of things being moderate. I would modestly say what gives me an edge over others are very straight forward and simple. I have spoken to some governors and some elders and I have penned down that there are four major things at stake about who becomes the candidate. One is the issue of pedigree. If you look at that, I would have a very good mark. Second is how competent is the person, I have my CV, I am eminently qualified. Third is what experience does he have in managing people and resources or even political experience. As the head of the FRSC many years ago, people could not believe that I was managing about 105 formations. Then the FRSC was rated very high even outside Nigeria.
In the political terrain, I’m not new in this business. I have always been in the background for long. In 1986, when some people who are contesting now were not know in the political scene, were it not for me, Papa Adekunle Ajasin would not have had a second term. I set up the first electronic digital collation center which I did first in Ondo State for Papa Obafemi Awolowo election. I set up the ones in Oyo and Ondo which I ran simultaneously.
As for election, in 1998, I put up myself to run for governorship election in Ondo State. Then, I had the backing of some people from Ijebu Igbo and other notable Yoruba leaders. But, I was prevailed upon by some people to step down for Adefarati. Even, at that, I went into the primaries. It was in that primaries that I was asked to step down for Adefarati and wait for my turn and waiting for my turn now has become 14 years. It shows I’m not new in this business.
And, lastly, the candidate must be able to bridge the gap between the old people and young ones. The candidate must also be on ground and I want to tell you that Olu Agunloye is on the ground in and outside the state more than any other aspirant. If the issue of loyalty is to be considered, don’t ask anybody if he would be loyal. He would tell you, even swear that he would be loyal. But, try to measure that by checking his past. I have held two or three positions in the past. I headed the FRSC and it is only people who would say whether I was loyal or not and I was at a time the Minister of Power and Steel.















